As the Lab Manager for the Crafted Technology and Experiences lab at SICS and the Mobile Life Centre, I will talk about the combination of design work and engineering. I will talk about the kinds of projects we run and what results we have made, and how we as a field need to work on changing how we look upon implementation work and engineering. Also I will touch upon how HCI and the field of Interaction Systems Design in fact has moved beyond User Centred Design and UX.